America’s battle against terrorists originating in the Middle East is nothing new. Our first war as an independent country was against the Barbary states—the four Muslim powers of Morocco, Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli.  

Fox News Host Brian Kilmeade tells that story in his new book Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates: The Forgotten War That Changed American History.” In our interview, Brian explains what was at stake then, how it relates to today’s war on terrorism, and what wisdom can be gleaned from the choices the Founding Fathers made regarding warfare and diplomacy.